When this happens, there is tremendous spiritual and emotional wounding. Harvest and MacDonald had a contentious separation last year, when he lost the position he held for 30 years over inappropriate comments and harmful conduct stemming from his legal battle with people investigating the church. I am aware that there has been some very good ministry done through this church. After telling us that the elder board always made every decision by full consent, we learned that the former head of the elder board found out about major church initiatives from his seat in the congregation. I would ask you the same question? James said it many times himself, chose to sin, But if they submit to the Healer, they will come out stronger. Sometimes being good will require us to say harsh things. In a statement written by church elders, the Chicago-area megachurch says they fired MacDonald forengaging in conduct contrary and harmful to the best interests of the church., Following a lengthy season of review, reflection, and prayerful discussion, the Elders of Harvest Bible Chapel had determined that Pastor MacDonald should be removed from his role of Senior Pastor. I didnt want to risk any negative impacts on my own growing ministry. A defamation lawsuit by the church against the website, and Julie Roys, a reporter for the bi-weekly Christian World magazine, who investigated Harvest, was dropped last month. After he was treated and had surgery he was totally different person: quick to get angry all the time, control freak, and mean.there are things that we dont know. Because evangelical megachurches are typically formed around a single charismatic individual, elder boards are generally loathe to consider letting this individual go. The assistant pastor just tried to deflect and justify the pastors actions. Stressful on him and his family. There are questions the leadership at every such megachurch should be asking. The pastor of that church,John Secrest, said he would be uncomfortable with MacDonald preaching at his church and asked Harvest to sever their affiliation. Ive never been able to foster the same level of trust and thats the residual I wrestle with. Also note how the apostle Paul called out Peter publicly when Peter was indulging in hypocrisy! Nellie, Then came Roys story, MacDonalds decision to sue Roys and the bloggers behind The Elephants Debt (presumably rubber stamped by the current elder board), and the realization that discovery would mean everything coming out. We are satisfied and grateful to our pastor for his Christlike behavior. If you know anything about abuse it can take years to come forward. That is who God truly cares about. While many in the congregation were willing to give it a second chance, some members raised concerns about many of these individuals closeness to MacDonald, and their willingness to cover for him for so long. What are you authorized to do? What she shared was the kindest message I have ever seen. Sunday Service-10:15 AM/Wed. or is it the congregations fault for being weak and gullible? May the God of all comfort minister his comfort to them. This post drips of mercy. My heart breaks for the people that have been hurt by this on both sides. The former Harvest Bible Fellowship leaders now at GCCwhich contains about 130 churches, more than half of which still have Harvest in their namesshare concerns about the churchs leadership and are looking for transparency and repentance from MacDonald. Is it perfect? Im also going to sign up for LWP. Im glad I have stood firm. This cancer must be excised and as often as is the case in cancer treatment, months of treatment must be involved for health to take place. Why not start a different type of church that is not pastor directed? 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Its so very difficult but This is Gods battle and I only need to be obedient not the fixer. This is hardly a local issue in the Western church. He stood and told me and my husband he was naive to the Paxton Singer situation. First, they resigned, along with a third elder (who was not excommunicated only because he also left Harvest and was no longer a member), in protest of how the church was being run. Harvest launched a radio show; founded a Christian school with over 700 students; built its own retreat center; produced feature-length films; wrote its own worship songs; and created its own church-planting ministry, Harvest Bible Fellowship, with 170 member churches. James is (was) a powerful force which could and did destroy people with his power and influence. When I asked questions at the Harvest I attended I was told to be careful what I read on the internet. Im not sure what is going on with me honestly. He is very likely not a brother in Christ. On Tuesday, Chicago shock jock and one-time friend of MacDonaldMancow Muller aired a series of clips featuring someone who sounds like MacDonald making offensive comments. Her princes within her are like wolves tearing the prey, by shedding blood and destroying lives in order to get dishonest gain. The day I watched the video, I emailed my campus pastor and asked for an explanation. I am so glad Lina has spoken up. All Rights Reserved | Website by Living Wth Power, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjXhWUyGi0&list=PLud2nIxx0IAT58I8QPBdfrOz8bFMQQcd6&index=4&t=0s, https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/, https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, Recommended Reads: Relevant Magazine on James MacDonald Allegedly Inappropriately Touching Anne Green. I am thankful that timing of other circumstances in my life led me to a new city to grow and find a faithful, healthy, growing, biblical church community. I too visited Harvest. I have or attend 3 or more small groups a week now and feel alive. We continue in prayer for all those affected near and far. Harvest elders announced this morning that they were forced to take "immediate action" on Tuesday to end his 30-year tenure. It is loving to tell the truth. Before the article was even printed, Harvest sued Roys, plus two bloggers whove been critical about problems at Harvest. Yet, with the growing numbers leaders, it is coming out, many followed along with James out of fear to personal, family, career damage. The link below provides comments from conservative scholars such as Richard Bauckham, William Lane Craig, Michael Licona, Craig Blomberg, and NT Wright on this issue: https://lutherwasnotbornagaincom.wordpress.com/2019/05/23/bombshell-how-historically-reliable-are-the-gospels-if-even-conservative-bible-scholars-believe-they-may-contain-fictional-stories/. Free of James fear. I was wrong. Linas post is still available on other mediums, I imagine if she wanted to link it she would have. My response, Why? We repent, forgive and are reconciled; we do not get even, hold grudges, refuse to forgive, or destroy innocent bystanders caught in the wake of it all. It seems to have so many cracks in the structure. for what its worth, the timing of the writing is His perfect timing. Your child will experience the life-changing power of Jesus and His Word through worship and story, and age-appropriate learning tools. I believe you are mistaken. Is this an informed opinion? Why now does not matter. Did you know that Satan and his minions come to Harvest? It never dawned on me that it would open you up to attack. Im praying for you. I believe that now IS an appropriate time to share your story. Harvest Bible Chapel has owned its mistakes and endured to become a happier and healthier church, whose members recently pledged financially, in their walk/work for Christ, and in their. HARVEST EN ESPAOL is available in person on Sundays at 11:00 AM in Cornerstone. I never worked at Harvest under Pastor James, I never wrote a book, I never had any altercation with Pastor James, and never had a complaint about him. Please support my writing! And the truth of many at Harvest. God is faithful, and He is doing what needs to be done to protect His bride. Seeing this in your personality it is understandable to me that at first you revered James correction and fell into compliance. Being part of Harvest, and hearing how the utmost leaders were tattooed with the Vertical Church logo, as I prepare the lesson, I cant help but wonder about the tattoo on the bodies of those who accepted the mark of James as their alliance with the Vertical Church of James. 2023 RELEVANT Media Group, Inc. All Rights Reserved. In Him, Even when you get away that fear doesnt leave just because you physically left. I totally agree with you Patti. I appreciate the Biblical distinction you made Sheila, in relation to the Bible calling us to be good ; which doesnt always mean being kind and nice. In the midst of efforts to reconcile with longtime critics, Harvest Bible Chapel fired its founder and senior pastor James MacDonald for engaging in conduct contrary and harmful to the best interests of the church.. The Rolling Meadows Campus is our founding campus and for more than three decades has testified to God's faithfulness. She loves the Word and words, is a binge reader and grammar nut, and is fanatic (as her family can attest) about Jeopardy! He unsubscribed from the emails but they were still sent him texts asking him to give. Their letter covered MacDonalds self-promotionlove of moneydomineering and bullying abusive speech[and] outbursts of anger.. 1 Song. In a statement written by church elders, the Chicago-area megachurch says they fired MacDonald for "engaging in conduct contrary and harmful to the best . Pray for those of us who donate 10 percent of our income and would like to know where the money really goes. 1 Timothy 5:20 Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. I also dont know why it took me five years to leave, but now Ive been at a true Bible preaching, Jesus exulting church, not too far from the RM campus. Sheila, we are not called to be good, we are called to be HOLY! I believe you spoke up now to show how far reaching the powerful words and actions of those in authority goes. Shes not the only one there are many. I think that was beautifully stated. Thank You for writing your blog. This cancer must be excised and as often as is the case in cancer treatment, months of treatment must be involved for health to take place. Christ alone is to be worshipped. In early 2018, reporter Julie Roys, who writes for the conservative evangelical WORLD Magazine, began conducting background research for an article, which was published eight months later under the headline Hard Times at Harvest. I am so happy that finally people are standing up and talk about it! The elders ordered church members to separate themselves from dissenters for fear of their souls; called MacDonalds critics behavior satanic to the core; and accused them carrying out an attack by Satan against MacDonald and Harvest. I dont know why, except that I just really wasnt getting the Word of God from the stage and I do mean stage. Do you read the elder updates? In one fellowship people were actually warned to have nothing to do with us, and yet all we had done, in each instance was to ask questions. She is not trying to kick him while he is down. Lina has every right to speak her truth . Praise and Worship is congregational: Do not judge the timing, Gods timing is Always Perfect. Its messy. This journey has taken me several years. For a great many, it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened again., Today on his edgy radio show, Muller said while he felt MacDonalds firing had to happen, he also had wanted nothing to do with any of it and now my part is done., I feel like God was using me in this, he said. He also makes vulgar comments about Wheaton College executive director of the Billy Graham Center Ed Stetzer and repeatedly degrades Julie Roys, the reporter who wrote the World Magazine story. Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. As of November, 2021, HBC is $34,000,000 in debt. I loved that about you. The Harvest and James MacDonald Controversy Explained, Did Pharaoh Have Free Will? Your willingness to sit down over a cup of coffee in your home with women of God and get real about our hurts, our fears, our dreams, or whatever is going on in our lives. In October, the church reported its chief information officer to police for suspected embezzlement. Less well known was that these individuals agreed to leave Harvest aloneto stop publicly criticizing the churchin exchange for a promise that the current elder board would enact changes. Now that these differences with MacDonald have come to resolution, our focus and full attention are on the future of Harvest Bible Chapel, they said. I continue to pray for the people this has affected, the elders and pastors, and that the darkness will be continually exposed to the light. All I have to say Lina is thank you! Ross, Ross Blomberg, We are the Church! Hi Sally, [], Lost me at the private jet shared with Bill Hibel. I was counted as one of the privileged ones and considered it a great honor to know James personally and even be considered as part of his inner circle at that time. Those that have gone through it ask themselves, should I speak up?. This pastor couldnt have been more wrong. Often no explanation given, and the band plays on. The Lord knows and he keeps the books. I have my own hurt of how certain situations were handled with me through the 20s ministry Then soon after that, the 30s ministry, production ministry and even the womens ministry on multiple occasions. Reflect about yourself and what steps you need to take to be healed and then to help others heal. What I have realized is the weakness and defeatism of so-called Christians who immediately abandon their Church when trouble comes its way. As were you, we were grieving and had to pray for help finding that new church. Same as your departure, not a single person reached out to see how I was doing once I left my job. Thank you for your honesty and your explanation. It was your Study that helped me be obedient to God. Harvest, which Roys says is $42 million in debt, is suing the Evangelical Christian Credit Union for not refinancing five of its mortgages. So now, I tell the truth about what happened, and it isnt only a Pastor James problem. , The elders of Harvest stand behind [Pastor MacDonalds] character and integrity without reservation. I also was silent about why my family left (also the week following the video). Others had old wounds that had resurfaced and were hurting, having never felt closure to their stories, Abujamra, a Bible teacher and Moody Radio host, wrote on her blog. God is sovereign, He is the Healer, He is the Restorer, He is the Renewer, and He will continue to do what He is doing in order to bring about His will for His people. FEAR is a liar, pray for them and never let offense take you out, that was the enemys plan! Because there are others that need to also be held responsible. Im grateful that the sin of James and the elders/staff who allowed his tyranny to prosper is finally coming to light, so that the abuse can come to an end. I pray your steps continue to be guided by our Lord! I hope to become braver. For me, I would like to apologize for not reaching out to you when I finally realized that you had left HBC. How about some GRACE !!! Swicegood released a statement saying that much of what has been alleged "is simply false, misleading and hateful." He added that the . In addition, what was shared now, may have been heard better now, then it would have been heard before Lina left Harvest. I just want you to know that what you did at HBC mattered, and your presence is greatly missed. I will pray for healing in the hearts and lives of those affected by this tragedy. Persecution is supposed to come from the world with the devil behind it, as Jesus said. Then, a famous friend of his, Chicago shock jock Mancow Muller, spoke out in a local newspaper against the manipulation and ego he observed around MacDonalds cult of personality at Harvest. I didnt want to risk any negative impacts on my own growing ministry. Humility, repentance, confession, forgiveness, reconciliation, mercy, love, compassion, healing, serious prayer and so much more for and by everyone should be given top priorities on our agendas soon if not now. Since I know I am capable of the worst sin, I am choosing to show grace and praying fervently. first Bill Hybels. Mike was genuinely shocked when we told him our son had Paxton as a camp counselor for whole week at Camp Harvest and we never received notice as HBC falsely told Daily Herald. 6. I was asked what I would do if I were still on staff through the last 2 years. Others, too, could see the attitude. I should have left that week, but I was too afraid to cause damage to Jesus and His kingdom and the women I was leading at that time. Press on in Truth with Grace and Peace. In announcing MacDonalds termination, Harvest elders stated they are committed to fulfilling our fiduciary duty as the leadership of this congregation, knowing that at times the outcome may be misunderstood or emotionally painful. Still. As Pastor James has said in the past, truth and time go hand-in-hand. How important it is to pray pray pray and check on our leaders also of their growth in Christ and what our church mission is and to stay biblical, not political but biblical. 37For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned. A friend sent me a link to sermon about this yesterday: https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/. We just determined to treat the circumstances as a loving God giving us a different direction. It also had a church-planting network, Harvest Bible Fellowship (HBF), which MacDonald dissolved last year. What Happens Now? The question is, how many pastors/leaders are actually GIVING AWAY the ministry and equipping others for it? You too felt you had to leave Harvest and what was your point of conviction on having to leave the Church ,that we all sacrificed so much for! Torn between right and wrong. Could you provide me with a link please. Still, even I knew when enough was enough. Connect With Us! I loved his book Vertical Church. The World article on the topic says that after Secrest was fired, "he was stunned, because his contract stipulated that he could be fired only for . Lastly, we need to comfort hurting today, she wrote. I didnt know you personally, but was a part of and benefited from the many programs that you offered through womens ministry. I guess I felt like one of the peons of Harvest, and that me reaching out wouldnt matter, since I was not a part of the inner circle or personally close to you. A Florida Lawyer Argues That a Pregnant Inmates Unborn Child Is Being Illegally Detained, Experts Predict the Ozone Layer Will Fully Heal Within 40 Years, The Biblical Reasons for Going Low Waste, The Spiritual Toll of Americas Food Waste Epidemic, The Buffalo Supermarket Shooter Has Been Sentenced to Life in Prison. I have nothing bad to say about Harvest. In the arbitration, MacDonald retained the rights to Walk in the Word, a part of the church that had put on his teaching ministry and popular radio broadcast. I also trust that you did seek wisdom from the Lord on what and how to speak into this. Those who would shame someone for standing on the side of truth and grace have missed the mark. I am sorry for the pain. On his radio show, Muller later aired what sounded like clips of MacDonald making harsh comments toward media who had covered the story. In the early 2000s, Harvest embarked on an ambitious expansion plan, aiming to form "10 churches in 10 years." Since then the church has opened locations in Elgin, Highland Park, Niles, Crystal. He just got into the worlds standards for a preacher. Others will be hurtit is a matter of time. I think Nellie and others are genuine in their questions of why now and why kick him when he is down. Though MacDonald has been granted the rights to his Walk in the Word ministry, he and Harvest remain at odds. and stay glued to founded and genuine monetary purchase services. Hoping you come back and teach a book of the Bible. Im replying after reading just your first few paragraphs. Not everyone is so blessed, and for those of you who have left HBC and have had to find a new local church, there are healthy ones out there. Im praying for you. And even then, it often doesnt work because so many remain enthralled with the narcissist, or have tied their fortunes to them, that they simply cant or wont see the truth. The environment is as ahw stated, fear James, make James happy Blessings to you! There is NEVER a healthy or spiritual reason for suppressing truth. Thank you for the courage and humility it takes to write a post like this. Gosh, so many similarities with the HBC action. As painful as it is, all that has been hidden must be revealed. Ross, Ross, You can read that article here. It is those who live in fear. Ted Haggard bemoans his "exile" in a new HBO documentary. The Spirit has shown me that Church, the Body of called out believers are those Christians you meet with. And this was all the way back in 2012). That, it seems, was what it took to finally break his hold over his current elder board; to finally convince the elders that they were wrong to keep listening to his excuses. MacDonald later admitted doing so but claimed it was all in good fun and misinterpreted. I agree here. No shame here for Lina. I will be praying for you. Do you realize the elders are already choosing to step down? Mike Winger Discusses When God Hardened Pharaohs Heart, Tennessee Church Showcases Tyre Nichols Photography, Louisiana Pastor Sentenced to 5 Years in Money Laundering Case Involving Nearly $900K in Stolen Funds, Steven Curtis Chapman First Contemporary Christian Artist To Earn 50th No. We can be humans and love. @Donna Is it possible that it is God Himself who is exposing these misdeeds? However, he ultimately agreed with the wave of backlash his pastor-friend now faced, condemning how MacDonalds drama had overshadowed Harvest and threatening a class-action lawsuit yesterday if MacDonald remained its pastor for another week. The small church that I and my family left was a textbook case in spiritual abuse. Until recently, I was 8 year member of HBC and I feel so sad, confused, betrayed. Dont you think this influences decisions made by the leaders, both now and before? How do you know it wasnt done with fasting and with prayer? Its very important that people share their stories. For our premium ad-free experience, including exclusive podcasts, issues and more, subscribe to. I think the congregation who asks these questions should know that I pray for them. These are the same elders that signed off on James filing the law suit against the Ryan Mahoney and his wife, Scott Bryant and his wife, and Julie Roys! Speaking the truth and not cowering in the corner. He spoke highly of you, and since then, I have occasionally prayed for you regarding your time and experience at HBC. I pray to our Father who loves us all that His truth and reconciliation and peace, healing abounds in this circumstance. Because these leaders will continue this false deceitful way of life that flows from them so seamlessly, so easily, and with such persuasiveness. Truth heals. If the church treated Lina this way, they will do it to you and others without a second thought. The elders and pastoral board have created a team called Harvest 2020 to conduct a complete review of what happened, and of the church. :) I met my husband about 5 yrs ago and he had been attending faith community church for a bit. I feel like I cant trust my own judgment any more. The culture of fear, intimidation, and secrecy has poisoned not just Rolling Meadows and its campuses, but also trickled down through the fellowship. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. I met you when you spoke at Harvest Davenports womens ministry retreat and events many years ago and was challenged and inspired by your teaching. Do you see any fruit from him of what God speaks of? And I find it odd that someone would have an opinion on that. Christians! I attended Harvest Bible Chapel for over 8 years and served as the Womens Ministry Director at the Rolling Meadows campus for three of those years (thats the flagship original campus by the way). Well said Lina. Others had old wounds that had resurfaced and were hurting, having never felt closure to their stories. How you hit the nail on the head! These are the same elders that approved this same law suit to be dropped when James and co. knew that they would have to open all the books and all the dirt would come out! I was mortified. The question is with independent churches who did they answer to? Muller, who has attended Harvest for five years and developed a friendship with MacDonald, wrote in a Daily Herald op-ed that hed seen the best the church had to offer: MacDonalds punchy sermons renewed Mullers faith, brought his family back into Christian community, and taught him the truth of the gospel. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. The flock are the casualties in all of this. It permeates through the woman that you are. Harvest responded by suing both bloggers, their wives, and Julie Roys. May God have mercy on his soul. The recognizing date of the exempt status is April, 1972. whos fault is this? And where I live that mostly rules out every English speaking church there is! Our good is like the filthy rags of the leper! Lina I couldnt agree more with everything you said and your comment here. If you know anything about abusive relationshipsHBC is in the honeymoon phase right now.look it up!! What is strange about your concern about your own fear is I have been of thee opinion that Pastor James must have been ruled by his own fear-fear of losing influence and the fear of losing his ministry. I wasnt happy with that but it had to be done! But the truth needs to be out there. Im one of the people who asked you to share why you left. Another blind believer. Harvest dropped the lawsuit; MacDonald took a leave of absence; Roys revealed that MacDonald had lied; and then, finally, MacDonald went on a public vulgar, slander-laced tirade against Roys and Christianity Today. Yes, there are a lot of hurting people at Harvest. I didnt want James as an enemy, as being on the inside knowing and seeing how he could and would destroy others in ministry if they challenged him. who we really love. On February 12th, someone who sounded an awful lot like James MacDonald called into Mancow Mullers Chicago-area radio show to cuss out all of his perceived enemies. 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