Rated 4.68 out of 5 based on 31 customer ratings. Good shooting! Lanyard loop. Protect yourself and others from infection by washing your hands or using an alcohol based rub frequently and not touching your face. Great review. We are of accord. Any one is free to gamble with their funds as they see fit, isnt AMERICA grand,as for myself Ive gambled way too much to continue with any more colt products. Finish: Semi-Bright Fantastic handling dynamics. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. You want to piss off and lose customers? And then, in 2020, Colt released the best stainless steel revolver theyve ever made. The Keefe Report: Colt Addresses Python Problems. I much prefer a .44 or .45 caliber. $ 1,399.00. Fired a customers Colt Python once while I was an RSO. Very good review. For those particularly interested, the cylinder throats measured at .358 on a minus pin gauge set and the major bore diameter was dead on at .357. She remembers that 50+ years later, the second one is for her. No free cheese. Great looking revolver! Hey, Im ordering a couple, but I would not advise you to spend that particular check until it is not only received and deposited, but confirmed to have *cleared*! Although it has been gaining traction over the last five years or so, the concept of extracting cannabinoids through heat and pressure is not a new trend. Bought the very fist one I could get my hands on, picked it up January 6th. Mark A. Keefe, IV, Editorial Director. One day the light goes off in your head and you realize just how good the piece really is. Once I determined that I had removed enough material from the hammer, I polished it and re-blued it. This is the same system that has worked so well with the King Cobra and is now a well-proven and welcome change. I dont understand how thats even possible, and Id probably the be the guy to argue that its not. Ive never calibrated one of those before. Thats nice when you are cocking the gun for single action fire, but especially nice if you need to carefully lower the hammer on a loaded chamber without firing the gun. Freaking EXCELLENT question. There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. Overall Length: 11.5 in. Screw or pin replacable front sight. MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700), Colt Python 4.25 are now, but distinctly more expensive than the S&W 686 or Ruger GP100 with which it competes as a "shooter" as opposed to a collector piece. Once the buying fever dies down Id like to buy one of those 6 inch models. The 2020 Python features modern stainless steel alloys and a re . I was unusually emotionally invested in an inanimate object, not for the object itself, but for the memories it evoked. But Im happy with it. The front sights on all of the current Pythons are a complete break from the original pinned styles, and include the same interchangeable front sight setup as the Cobra series. Ive shot revolvers, including Colts, for years. 5 1/2 barrel. When the hammer is approximately halfway to its cocked position the bolt is released from the trigger and rides on the outside of the cylinder. The 6 model has the traditional three cut-outs in the rib, and the 4.25 has the two sections more traditional to the 4 older models. Not saying theyll be inexpensive; the Python is definitely a premium wheelgun. Frame Material: Stainless Steel In single action, the triggers average was 4 lbs 5 oz. They would continue to make the 6 Python, in some number, all the way to 2006. We all hoped. When you say surface, do you mean the finish, or the material, or the physical structure of it? After all, the older Pythons were bringing in $2-3,000 each. After approximately 150 rounds of CCI/Blazer brass case .38 SPL ammo, the cylinder locked up after the first round of a cylinder-load was fired, wouldnt unlock unless I released the cylinder and swung it open. it was beyond me how somebody could screw that up. According to Colt, the top of the frame has 30 percent more steel in it by cross-section. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Every other round fell either on or between those two extremes. That was almost three months ago. As a person who has worked in very high-end and state of the art modern manufacturing, that ALONE is a huge problem. Happy out of the army to me! Its that speed in shooting the full pressure .357 Magnum loads where the Python excels. Ive always wanted a 2.5 one and would buy one of the new ones if they offered the option. Strike one. Commercial rounds included a 90gr FTX Critical Defense .38 SPL Lite load from Hornady, the Federal Premium .38 SPL +P 130gr Hydrashock, a wide variety of 158gr FMJs in .38SPL and .357 Magnum, the once again impressive Barnes Vor-TX 140gr XPB HP round, and many others. Barrel Length: 4.25 in. This isnt just an accurate, good looking gun, its a fun one, too. Yes a example that didnt have the problem that many other examples did, just google New Colt Pythons problems,5 to 6 pages should get the point across. The single-action pull of the old Pythons and the OP was 3 poundsclean, crisp and perfect for those wanting to shoot bullseye (which was pretty much the only competition to be found back in 1955, the first year of Python production). About a month later on December 14th I got a call that the gun was there. 9mm Pistol. Colt-PY300168. The Python is back! So has my shooting buddy, who experienced the same results when I asked him to verify what I was experiencing. If the trend with the new generation of Pythons follows like the originals, the next barrel length should be 2 1/2. Pretty shameful display so far, especially knowing I could buy a used Ruger with the same problem, dial a number, have it sent in, fixed, and back in my mitts in under two weeks. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. The same feeler gauge that measured .003 wouldnt quite fit in the new Python. I find it in screws. I got my carry license in 1976 and bought a used Trooper MKIII blue 6. The bullet has long left the barrel by the time your finger is moving out. However, Colt took the. If anything, theyve reminded us of what the company once produced, and what it still is capable of. Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. Its also my wifes favorite gun of the entire collection. It was sweet, no doubt. Of all the things that should have been an absolute gimme for them, they couldnt even get the profile right. In this case Colt stepped up and made it right. For any mechanical issue, they should have it returned to you within 30 days. Colt last week issued an update to clarify some reported questions with their rebooted Python series of .357 Magnum revolvers. I was really wondering about the new generation. I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. Very through. Colt Pythons manufactured between 1955 and 1969 also feature numeral-based serial numbers. Building on Colt's Snake Gun legacy, the legendary double-action revolver returns in stainless steel in 4.25" and 6" barrel lengths. Pythons have always included a wide, deeply serrated hammer spur as standard. Maybe I handled a bad new Python, but there should be no such thing. . COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. This of course was way before the internet and I was frustrated. Good story, but I still have the 4 Python I bought NIB in 1973, works good, lasts a long time. Ive owned more than a few Pythons over the years. I stared at that picture for months deciding that I had to own one of those guns. I pulled the side plates from each of the new guns I had access to. Proved to be very accurate, and fun to shootuntil it wasnt. They had instead stopped the forward travel right before the last click of the mechanism. Feeding issues plague Semi-Autos due to magazine issues, ammo differences, and wear items. These days, high performance JHPs mean that while semi-autos still cant keep up with enormous hunting cartridge revolvers, they are more than good enough to compete against .38 SPL self-defense revolvers. I asked Colt why stainless, and not blue? I love it. Its a pain in the neck, but it can be done. Its going back to Colt. I do wish they would bring back a lithe 38 Special like the Police Positive. Do you have one to recommend or a particular bullet you like? Considering my experience with the King Cobra, and how well Id see the Pythons hold up during this review, I have no concern about the end-shake growing to an unacceptable level anytime soon. I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. for all of those who have to have it now folks to buy them, so they Much like the first edition of the Python, this revolver has a captivating appearance. Have at it, which reminds me of the adage That is why they make Chevys and Fords,everyone can have what they want. The first python had light strikes, gouges on the crown and tool marks inside the barrel. This time, I figured Id give Du-Lite a shout-out that gun people should know about. boar with a Glock 17. New Smith & Wesson revolvers at the time cost considerably less. When you pull the hammer back, you know this is something special. Back in the late 1970s I was toying with the idea of buying a Python, but when I saw the Dan Wesson .357 pistol pac, I emptied my wallet right away. They were one of the reason I picked an Anaconda back in the early 90s for my first wheel gun, over a S&W or Ruger. Rosin can be made from many types of starting materials, including flower, kief and bubble hash either dried or fresh frozen. There still seems to be some bugs to be worked out. Of the guns Ive looked at, none of them have it. Im tempted by this new one, but its still pretty pricy. Colt Python The finest production revolver ever made. With the crappy rollout, I decided to get a Super Redhawk instead..now if only I could find somewhere to shoot. But it seems a lot like there are more people claiming that their Colt is bad than the number of guns that Colt actually sold. I am dissatisfied customer, as much as how Colts customer service treated me as anything else. , Ive been careful with my money all my life and this is what it gets me. I dont recognize those markings. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. Colt Python 2020 Review: The Greatest Revolver of All Time? They continue today through a variety of guns like their iconic Colt Python and M4 Carbines. The worst shooting group was also an Armscor 158 gr FMJ round. Keep blowing the customer service, communication part of the job. Theres an even, not quite mirror quality polish throughout the gun. They were, and are still, fast to draw, fast to fire, and with a competent marksman, sure to strike the intended target. Colt advertises the trigger as falling between 7 and 9 and half pounds. I find that lack of specificity disappointing, especially since Colt also touts that the new trigger has a more consistent weight and feel. This is not a fault of the gun, but poor training for which I was once also a victim. Additional shipping cost applies to Alaska and Hawaii. Until this new generation, I struggled with the staging of the Colt trigger, and therefore preferred the Smith & Wesson style. I dearly hope we see a blued Python, and Id fight a big man or a small old lady to be first in line for one, but I dont think we will see them in significant numbers anytime soon. How deep have we fallen?! New wood grips that you modified to fit you . Theres always a couple turds in the swimming pool. PYTHON USED $3,249.99 The Colt Python is a family of six-round double-action revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum. Its frankly shocking that they release a revolver with very commonly seen reliability issues and people are trying to handwave it away because theyre so thirsty for a new Python. Although the 6 model was also described as a service weapon from the earliest catalogs, the 4 model would be described in advertisements as the Police Python when it was released in 1961. The gun pictured here was made in 1962. Nice gun-nice review. To be clear, they said I needed to realize this guns(New Pythons) are 100% assembly lined manufactured, they are not tested, have no critical inspections, I would get they next one off the line with no testing or inspection and they would not replace or warranty the gun from there on out. In January of 2020 a new Colt Python rolled out of the factory and it was the No. Not to mention that this is Colt desperately trying to gain its following back after giving most of the civilian market the finger for years. News, Extras, Handguns, Revolvers. I still have photos from the first gun and all the correspondence from throughout the ordeal. (Photo: Colt) The hand-filling 8-inch Colt Anaconda for 2021 has an. Colt tells us the Pythons have been in production since November in order to fill the supply chain before the announcement. Of course, the cost of a blued Python would be considerably more. I have ordered 2 of the 4.25, hopefully consecutive numbers, though when I might see them in this environment, who can tell. The gun wasnt cooperating. Yeah, done it. The python had a lot of hand fitting and polishing, where as every piece on this gun was probably CNC machined. I put in 200 rounds of reloaded .357 Magnum through that new 6 Python. The new Python is built out of stronger stainless steel than the originals and is available with a 3 in (7.6 cm), 4.25 in (10.8 cm) or 6 in (15 cm) barrel. When I get my government check, Ill spend it on a Python. Still, I tried a different method, and measured the end-shake at just over .002. Despite some very heavy hand loads. I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. 6, no Hillary hole and six rounds only. I'm very disheartened about this. I am on my second new python if there were only 25 returned why did it take 3 months to get to me? Of course, we are all looking forward to the Royal Blue like the one above. When I ETSed in 83 I bought a 6 stainless Python. Ive looked it over and compared it to an original Python and theres very little firing pin protrusion compared to the original. Even the stoutest 158 gr loads are tamed by the Python. You just have to work at it. The big change is that Colt ditched the hammer block. So it doesnt bother me. They owned up to that and said that it was their fault. Nice review. Stainless steel is not as pretty as blued. Find More at: https://www.patreon.com/GoldenWebb/ Please SUBSCR Show more Shop the GoldenWebb store Cowboy Beach Towel $30.99. (TTAG isnt at the top of many major manufacturers Christmas card lists.) Colt released a few different versions, The Hunter, Silhouette, and 10 Pointer in that barrel length. What I saw was a whole lot of people referring to the same malfunctioning guns over and over again. Nothing jarred loose. Slightly gritty. The only Colt I ever owned was a SAA. Once the hammer is released from the trigger, it rotates forward striking the transfer bar transferring energy to the firing pin to ignite the cartridge in the chamber. Mostly we shoot .38 Spl and .357M, because thats what the wife and I happen to reload most (she prefers .38 Spl for its ease of shooting). Great review Jon. Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. Serial number range is PY2052XX, and there is already a "U" or "J"marking inside the crane that I remember, so it was supposed to be of the fixed models for the initial issues I believe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont%E2%80%93Adams_revolver. "The funny thing. Im currently unaware of any major holster manufacturers making well-fitted holsters for this revolver, so if any of you know of one, let us know in the comments. If you love to wear action movies and games outfits so must check the top 5 superb Cosplay Jackets which gives you a killer and stunning look on this cosplay festival. I followed your advice and did a search on Google. How is it that Ive never heard of a S&W or Colt sideplate shooting loose in 100 years of production guns before this? I take a different view than many people. I read what I thought you meant rather than what you wrote, because what you wrote is dumb. It also exhibits the same lack of stack as the King Cobra. (I did have one Armscor .357 Magnum 158gr FMJ round fail to fire, but it also failed to do so in two other guns.). I shoot it better than my g19. You covered the bases. When I started this review, I hoped to have both the 6 and 4.25 guns on hand. I had Ted Blocker leather make an appropriate holster for it. Beyond the straight back pull with very little stacking, and a now confirmed consistent weight and feel, the wide serrated trigger shoe completes its cycle without grit or mush. Manufacturers, retailersif your actual, physical product does not include actual sincere and genuine customer serviceyoure wasting the customers time and money. Revolvers obsolete? Its my BBQ gun. Excellent quality, great 178 grain bullet. When I reviewed the new Colt King Cobra, I noted some concern over the cylinder end-shake, which measured at .003. Same for Garands. This review gives me a little more confidence in the new version. The Python is cool. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. kinks have been revealed and fixed. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. Especially with the little trigger work, theres nothing wrong with the Ruger match champion at all. You asked about holsters; both Galco and DeSantis have holsters for the Python. My .454 Raging Judge once had the cylinder lock up on me Given that there is no way to easily clear the weapon in that case, that was exciting. I scrimped and saved and by fall of 81 had enough to pay full price plus sales tax. Those cut-out sections on the top of the rib were originally called vents by Colt. Outstanding value. Kracker, I love me a S&W 686. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. Many folks think that Colt has lost the level of expertise and attention to detail necessary to produce that finish. With a modern handgun, using modern steels, a .45 Colt can be loaded to be the equivalent of a .44 RemMag and then some. I told him I wanted a blue 8 in .357 magnum. The new Python is a better gun. I have the 6 inch model. Inspired from the tv series Yellowstone, this Kelly Reilly Blue Coat is poncho-style outerwear. Some of the time, I have to take a propane torch to parts to get them to come apart (eg, red Loctite). Im happy that you simply shared this useful info with us. Those are some mighty fine looking revolvers. I even own a few Tubberware pistols. It isnt the right thing to do but it is reality. From the perspective of a former swimming pool operator, there are just so many things wrong with this part of the conversation. Then they released the King Cobra and we could see the writing on the wall. This gun looks fantastic and your review was one of the best Ive read at TTAG in quite awhile. Offered in two barrel lengths, in 2020 Colt has given the world a 6" and a 4.25" barrel. Screws coming loose on a sideplate above? Um The double-action revolver predates metallic cartridges. I just got mine right before all this lock down stuff. Same here. I have fond memories of my youth shooting several Pythons. If I have this reaction, Im sure Mr. Bad guy has it triple. The full under-lug, combined with those rib vents complete a certain stout elegance. Height: 5.5 in. But there is something about a Python. The current 2020 Python is closer to the Ultimate Stainless finish, and far more polished than the base stainless version. JW thanks for a very informative review. I had to have one, and about a month ago, I scratched that itch. I knew they would sell out fast, and that it would likely be quite a while before the Colt marketing department got me a gun to review. pweserge, spoken like someone long on theory and little real world experience. Even though quite a few were issued as police department service weapons, the Colt Python has always been a target revolver at its heart. My handgun battery is about evenly split between revolvers and semi-autos. The gun still dry fires in DA and SA. At no point during any of the shooting did I feel like I was slogging through rounds to check off boxes. Did you read, or even glance at, the review? I kept my Dan Wesson with no regrets. A slight change in grip and trigger guard geometry allows better control firing heavy loads. Much for the better. The ergonomics of the grip, the outstanding trigger, the smooth action and simple weight of the 46 oz. I like and own both revolvers and semi-autos. In the above, Justin Baldini, Colt's Director of Marketing,. I didnt lube them again or clean them until I was taking photos. Sub 1 groups with both the 6 and 4.25 at 25 yards with a variety of ammunition. Which is it? The few local gun shops I asked said they didnt really deal in new Colts. Overall * * * * * Colt's Manufacturing Company LLC Colt Speaks Justin Baldini,. I got an old k frame that would lock up after a couple of rounds. And I was worried Hartford would screw it all up releasing a sub-standard Python. Boy, I dont know. Adjusting for inflation, the prices on the old production guns and these cost about the same. Even still, they currently have an 11,000 unit production backlog. . New one just doesnt look right. I assume no, but have not seen it stated. Listen folks, the name of the alloy is stainless not stainnone. It appears the sights are interchangeable, although obviously they are at different heights. 2020 Colt Python Set .357 Mag 4.25". Width: 1.55 in. You made my heart flutter a bit with that description. In either mode the functioning sequence is similar, when the trigger or hammer rotates rearward, the trigger unlocks the bolt from the cylinder, while the trigger lifts the hand to rotate the cylinder clockwise, the trigger also moves the transfer bar up behind the firing pin. That number can be increased now that Colt is using a method of less hand fitting and more advanced manufacturing. Not much risk there. It also has the 4.25 inch barrel. A shamelessly pro-Colt and Python review. This could be a nice money-maker for them, and they need that right now. Width: 1.55 in. I now have a varied collection of plastic autos, steel autos, and revolvers and Im thinking I really need to get a Colt. The blueing of stainless often requires you hit a narrow temperature range, sometimes you need to run the salt bath temp up and down through the range to get the blueing to start, then you need to sometimes agitate the salts a bit to keep them blueing the stainless, etc, etc. Pythons produced from 1955 to 1969 have no letter in the serial number and are the most desirable to collectors. 15 18 comments This process is described the same way, and even on the same page (19) in the manual, with the King Cobra and the Python. Really wanted the 4.25 inch barrel gun but then I realized- I have a four and a six inch Python now, not a bad place to be. Never had an issue. Worth scouring the net for though. I think I made too much money to qualify for that .gov cheese. The documented problem was that the cylinder would intermittently fail to advance. I got on the order train as fast as I could, asking for both a 6 and 4.25 gun from my distributor. I tested the end-shake with three different new Pythons and compared them to several old Pythons, including an unfired 4 gun. The heaviest of either gun was 8 lbs 6.4 oz. I asked Colt why 4.25 and not 4 like the original release. Thank you very much. Dont mind the negative Nancys who are complaining. use the Glock. Thing is I dont want to face down a 400 lb. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. That depends entirely on what you are looking to do. Not sure if Ill keep it when it returns from Colt, as Im concerned about reliability. Add to Wish List. Colt told me that they assumed the side plates had not been properly tightened from the factory. Good call Colt, good call. Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. Not even in fancy colors. Most buyers will go out and shoot their stainless guns, but many folks would relegate a blued Python to safe queen status like too many do with the Single Action Army. Now it looks fantastic and it functions properly. I have a Galco Summer Comfort and a DeSantis Thumb Break Scabbard for my Ruger GP100 4.2. . Maybe Colt will offer the blue from their custom shop? Yeah that was a huge fuk up and hopefully massive changes have been made since then. The Python. And thats the way the conversation went when a buddy of mine told me that Colt would soon be offering a new Python. Eventually the initial frenzy will die down, and well see saner street prices for the new Python 2020. Midway Has the Federal 5.56x45mm M855 Bulk Ammunition You Need Now, National Level Trainers Offering Free Beginning Gun Handling Videos, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, Gun Review: Taurus GX4XL T.O.R.O. But that all goes out the window with hand polishing. Hunt deer humanely at distances of 100 yards Id go with Ruger .44 SBH with a scope ( I have one). With this Python 2020 effort, thoughthis is a good sign from the company. Saying it another way, I removed about 0.010 inches of material from the part of the hammer that contacts the receiver and stops further forward movement of the hammer. If you cant trust the US treasure check these days, whom can you trust? Is their a reason why Colt cant put the same surface on the new hammers that the original Pythons had? The question that everyone will ask is, Does the new Python live up to the name? Yes. Watch some of the revolver masters, like Patrick Sweeney, and youll see their trigger finger actually slap the inside of the trigger guard. Ill have to pass, thank you very much. 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