sharwil avocado vs hass

The Gem is covered with avos, the other two have about 5 or six each. It is so hard to know when a variety will taste good coming from a tree in your yard based on the information of others, I totally agree. Hass, Hi Greg, And thats what a five- compared to fifteen-gallon tree is: younger. Watering. This makes me very happy? Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. Lamb, Reed, Pinkerton (and Grande) seem to be the happiest and healthiest. Sun exposure. (GEMs harvest season is basically spring into summer.) I thought you could know more about avocado rootstocks, reading articles is one thing, but having an avocado tree orchard is another))))), Also, Duke 7 and Dusa are highly tolerant to Phytophthora (Duke 7 is tolerant to Phytophthora citricola and Dusa to Phytophthora cinnamomi). The Different Types According To Region Of Origin Horticulturally, avocados are classified into three categories, based on the regions of their origin. Haha. Adam Tropics is located in the center of Temecula, we offer many varieties, Gem is a new type very similar to Hass Avocado in tree shape and quality of fruits but mature trees grow a little smaller than . It has set more fruit while young than most of my other varieties. What are your thoughts on a Sharwil Tree? Thank you! I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. Hi Greg, I live on the California Coast in between Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay, were at about 800ft elevation and 1 mile inland from the coast. I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. Black sand? Home Depot in Whittier has mainly had Zutanos, Bacons and Hass while Lowes hadnt had anything. You could try a different variety, but I doubt that would significantly change your results. Was looking at Sir Prize, your article leans toward Haas, stay with Haas? So Im only guessing here. But not about the persea mites. Good luck with the Reed. Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? Its only the second time I have seen one in 5 years so I took it as fate and bought it to replace a Bacon I had which was burnt away by the sun yet I am convinced it was mislabeled and wasnt actually a Bacon. On the other hand, I doubt youd be disappointed with Pinkerton, which is widely available. Avocados love it just above 70. (I have numerous other avocado trees near my Gwen.) Thank you so much for your recommendation. Fuerte would work here since its bloom season is long and overlaps well with these two varieties. Thanks so much for this update. Thats a fun project. Good questions, all. One of them doesnt deliver to France. You saved my sanity! I enjoy your videos! I fertilized more, watered less, and now its in perfect shape. So, right now I still want to plant two avocado trees))))) I still want to plant a Hass, but I havent decided on the second variety. 1. There is a lot of great info here. Thanks for your feedback. And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. I grew up against the same mountains, but out in Glendora, and Bacons do great there. Im considered to be in zone 9, and yet my Reed does well. This will help me determine where i will plant it. Step 5. Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? The tree is supposedly over 40 and is a seedling with both Fuerte and Hass characteristics yet again the flavor has that tanginess only Fuerte has. Yes, heat tolerance would be a desirable quality indeed. Hass is the most widely planted variety in the world for good reason. Guaranteed meaning: We have grown trees in areas away from tall trees, so not to be pollinated by them. Carmen and GEM are definitely both worth adding to your collection in terms of being great tasting, high yielding, and having good hang time. You might be able to find a Gwen to taste at a farmers market somewhere nearby around now and through summer. My Reed and Lamb trees held onto so much fruit that I later had to remove some by hand in order to prevent branches from breaking. Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . Ive never had a tree-matured Reed. Hi Greg. Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. Eli mentions that hes swamped with GEM orders, and that he had to save one for me since I contacted him in February because hes completely out of GEM right now. Elizabeth, 27. I have two questions, if I may I figured there had to be one. Will the new leaves burn? Kona Sharwil Avocado 2.0 - The Re-DO - Avocado Talk 1,184 views Feb 6, 2022 50 Dislike Share ReEngineeredMemories 582 subscribers Finally got the Kona in the ground as of today 2/6/22.. I confess I began gardening only very recently, and I am super interested in all the different varieties and the scientific details. Is there a simpler way. Give your avocado tree about 15 feet of space from other trees and plants. I hope to hear more updates from you. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. Most people think Fuerte tastes better, but Bacon is a nice milder, sweeter avocado for the winter. Were planting literally thousands of sharwil avocados in 30 gallon root pouches, mostly above ground. Do you have any experience or exposure to Nabal Avos? I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. Or consider 'Lamb Hass,' a similar-size tree, hardy to 26 degrees, bearing 10- to 18-ounce Hass . Yes, before asking you about the rootstocks, I checked if there was anything about avocado rootstocks on The Yard Posts! All these years I couldnt figure what it was. Lots of dieback when it reached 117F for 3 days. The three more Guatemalan types get afternoon shade which I think helps since in recent years our summers are very intense much like inland Riverside and or Redlands as I recall with temperatures reaching well over a 100 more often than a decade ago. It may have something to do with the Gwen tree being a bit wimpy during extreme weather compared to some other avocado varieties. We anticipate that Sharwil avocado consignments from Hawaii to the mainland will total about 180 metric tons per year, equivalent to about one-half of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of non-Hass avocados and to less than one-twentieth of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of all avocado varieties. If I didnt feel the need for lots of space, I would, no doubt. Hi Greg, your posts are so helpful! The main negative is that, to me, Pinkertons dont taste quite as good as Fuertes. I have a hilly area for my trees and its not practical for ladders, so Im looking to plant avocado trees that are easier to pick, great tasting, high yielding and can hang for some time on the tree (ideally). Theyre both great varieties, and good complementary trees for a Reed. Maybe not the best. I watered it every day, but the young tree literally burnt alive and became all black in just one month. have you seen any truths to that? Oh!, and do I ever miss a good fuerte which I used to sell off a fruit truck next to Golden Gate Park in SF in the 70s. SHIPPING. Much larger in size, these avocados . . They grow far better in the mild temperatures near the beach than they do in my yard which is twenty miles from the ocean. The fruit is usually rounded or slightly pear-shaped. If there is excess moisture, your Hass avocado tree might suffer from root rot. Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. I have downscaled a bit.and now I have just 20 trees and 16 varieties. One thought would be to graft an A and a B to the same tree with similar seasons for cross pollination. Yes, there is nothing like finding those 100 year old avocado trees. Its great for grapes and pomegranates, harsh for avocados. Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. Im ruthless with pruning shears (you have to be), Youre welcome to check out Piet Stassen and his pruning technique displayed at UC Irvine. I am in the hills of Montecito, south facing slope. Thank you for your reply, After doing some research and asking question in my neighborhood the last couple of days, I found out that Im not the only one with this problem. There are 3 different groups of avocados, depending on where you live -- CA, FL and Hawaii. Thanks. Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. Please keep it up. Ive got more than one Hass tree planted (although only one is full grown) in part because my family of five is all avocado lovers, plus I love sharing with friends, neighbors, and extended family, and everyone loves the familiar Hass. Queen Avocado. Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. Pinkerton, Sharwil The most popular Hawaiian avocado and the only one certified for shipping to the mainland, Sharwil avocados are relatively large, green-skinned fruits descended from both Guatemalan and Mexican trees. That sounds like an excellent setup and arrangement of varieties. might be possible to buy a Lamb Hass (but I read about the Lamb Hasss strong habit of alternate bearing). If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. What do think of a Reed vs. Sharwil in temecula where it can both get too hot and too cold some avocados? I can give it time but wonder if starting new isnt a better option. But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. Miuch like Citrus, Palm and Catus mix. But the distinctive smooth texture and nutty yellow flesh of a perfect Fuerte is so appealing to me that I dont even want to adulterate it as guacamole. Even when it was 118 back in July 2018 I lost no Pinkerton fruit, and Ive seen a Pinkerton tree in Redlands that carried a massive crop through that same heat wave. We can all hope, cant we? This way youll likely have some years with fruit on all but some years where the tender ones get some damage. Do you have any recommendations for which trees/rootstock combinations have the best chance of survival out here? I would have preferred a Jim Bacon but couldnt find one. Hello Greg from Cyprus in Europe! These trees had a bit more shade and sprinklers watering. 100% Hawaiian Sharwil Avocados. Highlights. The farmer found GEM to do very well on Toro Canyon and Duke 7 rootstock in his soil, however. I love my Hass. And youre right about the tree looking weird, but it works. Hass and Reed as numbers one and two are solid for me. The global Hass Avocado market is projected to reach USD million by 2028 from an estimated USD million in 2022, at a CAGR of Percent during 2023 and 2028. Thanks Greg, USDA Certified Production Facility: Volume up to 6,000 lbs. I just cant say for sure. Thank you for your response and info. According to your post and other things Ive read a Reed would be a good choice but, then I started looking at Sharwil and the descriptions of the flavor sounds amazing. Until then, let me say that every one of the varieties you mentioned has great tasting fruit (except that Ive never eaten Green Gold so cant comment with experience on that one). Riverside to I hope your trees grow lightning fast! We do not have a lot of wind problems where we are located, either. 'Sharwil' is a Mexican and Guatemalan cross and represents more than 57% of the commercial acreage in Hawaii. I ate it on April 26, 2018, and my notes say that the Kahaluu avocado skin had thrips scarring, was about as large as a Reed but with more of a pear shape, did not peel easily, flesh was very easy to spoon out though. Really it's the type A Guatemalans that far and away perform best in the cool temps. And please let me know how your adventure in avocado growing proceeds. It will be a few years before I can say much about most of the Hawaiian varieties I am growing. Most of them dont usually produce as well in such climates as A types. Thank you so much for your response. so youre saying when im trimming my own trees each year that i can just ask them to just dump them in my driveway so i can use it as mulch too? Oliver Atkins, the founder of the nursery, was the longtime chair of the Variety Committee of the California Avocado Society. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. What varieties did you get and on what rootstocks? Thank you for sharing this. Once you have tried a GreyStar avocado, you will quickly conclude that GreyStar is several rungs up the ladder from Hass in flavour, quality and value. You might find this answer boring, in which case Id be willing to bet that you dont already have a Hass tree in your yard. Try to check out the frost patterns next time we get a cold night too. I also gave some wood to others up here who are much better at grafting in case the tree disappears. Replaced with a Reed which is doing great so far. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! I completely understand and I agree. See my short video profile of Pinkerton avocado fruit here.). If you want to maintain that upright growth, then its best to limit the fruitset or pinch the tips of branches as they grow so that they fork more and are better able to hold a load of fruit. Reed is basically a summer-into-fall variety. GEM could do well for you, as could just about any other variety. . 2 years old Fuerte on unknown seedling They explain about varieties and rootstocks and even about clonal vs seedling rootstock (that was an amazing discovery as well). And I started reading about rootstocks. The elderly couples yard suddenly became an internet sensation and these people kept getting surprise visitors in their front yard until they asked people to take videos of their tree off of YouTube and started turning visitors away. It doesnt make great guacamole, but its excellent on sandwiches and in smoothies. I like the taste of all of them, so would ideally want to pick one for cross-pollination and longest season of Avocados from both! I think Ill pick a few avocados that you mentioned (knowing me Ill get to the store and come back with seven) Call me crazy but I just ordered 10 thermometers that record the max/min temp on my property. By the way, I have a few other Hawaiian varieties growing that Ive never tasted and am wondering if youd recommend giving any of them more or less attention and space: Murashige, Malama, Nishikawa, Kahaluu? You must love seeing snow on Baldy right now. The trees have a tall, upright spreading habit. The only tough part is that you must whitewash exposed bark. See his website for details: https://www.elisfarms.com/farmers-markets. That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. I think youre absolutely right not to share more about this tree. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. I am looking for a variety that would : Craig. I also have a Bacon way in the back yard mostly for pollinating. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. The funny thing is that when I have given people some wood I didnt give them fruit because it is identical to Fuerte so there is no need. I have lost a couple in the past that I didnt wrap. There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. Fuerte, Required fields are marked *. What do you think? Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. It weighs between 8 and 16 oz, making it a slightly smaller variety. Small fruit will be used for value added product. It makes me feel geriatric. Just to imagine your future for a second: Youll be eating SirPrize avocados around now in March, then youll switch over to GEM sometime around late spring, then youll end the summer and head into fall with Reeds; oh, here comes the next crop of SirPrize fruit starting to blacken its skin and tell you that its time to pick. "The trees are also more compact, which means growers have less costs for harvesting and tree maintenance." Take out the two dead and the one just barely hanging on and plant three new trees or find an entirely new place to plant away from the pool? Hi Elizabeth, document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I'm Greg. In addition to irrigating the tree before the heat hits, watering down the foliage (and fruitlets) during the heat helps. It appears similar to Fuerte. If you want to know how to kill an avocado tree, ask me Ive done it all. Hi David, GEM. In fact nowadays growing mangos and bananas is becoming more common here whereas just a decade ago an avocado tree put you on the cutting edge of growing. So, I found an avocado variety calendar, on gregalder.com, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_20170831_071354-1-e1504273347755.jpg, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WP_20160104_09_07_06_Pro.jpg, but I am still struggling and have no idea what second variety would be the best choice. Thanks And then theres your commitment to pruning. When it comes to Avocado, Temecula is the place to buy all your Avocado trees, famous for best Avocados in the WORLD. Unfortunately, they do not have a webshop, but I was able to call them, and they spoke both French and English. Im sorry but even though that farm has Sharwil avocado trees growing, the trees are too young to have a substantial crop and so they havent started selling the fruit. Small seed - Sharwil seeds, possibly the smallest of all commercial avocados, are Both can crop well as solo trees, and they have different harvest seasons, and they both are extremely high-quality in terms of eating. Your area is definitely on the cool side, but actually not too much cooler than ideal for avocados in terms of high temperatures. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. They will never let you down or change their form. 1) be reliable cropper, a variety that gives high yields, even as a solo-tree (we dont have other avocados in our neighourhood, and my two trees, not flowering at the same time, would be considered as solo-trees) First, there is no best rootstock. Yes, thats my thought and what I suspected you might think as well! The Hass is a tough act to follow, but Backyard. I have tried a bunch of places with no luck, its even hard finding a Fuerte. Compared to Hass, its harvest season isnt quite as long. Hass x 4 Reed x 3 Sharwil x 1 Unknown grafted x 1 Fuerte x 2 Ettinger x 2 Wurtz x 1 And a few seedlings. Ive never tasted one but wondering how it compares to Reed and Hass in your opinion. Both Bacon and Fuerte will be ready to pick in winter, before GEM. Some of them are relegated to a lower tier because of flavor (Zutano); some arent productive enough (Holiday). Thanks for the info. Anyway, usually its for the best that trees shed some of their fruitlets. If I only have space for one avocado tree, could I graft several varieties to this one tree, or is this not recommended? In that case, the tree needs to be kept cool and hydrated as far as possible. Were trying to get avocados all year round with varieties weve tried and like. Truth is, youll probably be happy with either a Reed or a Sharwil in every way. i was thinking that maybe a gwen to help the sir prize and reed for stewart seems to be the right pairing, or should i think about redoing my variety selection? Hi Greg, I will be planting two avocado trees in the spring. What would you recommend? Were getting a couple of avocado trees to plant in Pasadena. Incidentally, similar spacings can often be used in a yard as on a farm. Avocado trees produce thousands of flowers and only about one in 5000 sets fruit. I am not gaining anything just want the world to have another Fuerte variety available to them. Best regards, Note that Im really tentative about saying this. Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. When I looked up the harvest time, it looks similar to a Reed. You were right, Greg, they are the best!!!!!!!!!!! 3. A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. Thanks for the good ideas. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. They are on the bigger side, green-skinned, pear-shaped, and tasty. The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! There are a lot of factors that go into the long term performance of a tree, but all other things being equal (health of tree, scion variety, rootstock, care), I also see no theoretical reason that a younger tree would somehow jump ahead of an older tree. (rpondu) Blogue Fruits et Lgumes. You could eat Sir Prize fruits starting pretty early in winter, and then you could let the GEMs hang late and eat them even through summer maybe into fall except that Covina gets hot, so maybe not.

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sharwil avocado vs hass