=> Read More. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! @ frieda: This is a statement from Pete. Others turned them over and gave their Bibles to the world. +(503)71037139 info@tudestinoes.com Login. I had a similar response last summer praying with male African Anglican pastors praying for our (women) giftings to be developed and used for the Body of Christ. I talked with baptists who were upset Jill Briscoe would even defend herself. . That is something to be thankful for. I believe the Bible is infallible. I agree about lines in the sand for clarity sake. I wanted to meet her and did. Professors rule, and students submit. Ill let you have the last word on the points you raise, aside from your final paragraph. He has had an unwavering commitment to the authority of scripture and the preaching of the Gospel throughout that time. God has vested authority in man by making Adam first, and then Eve. BTW, Kirk Cameron is apparently giving more interviews about marriage again. Ed liked having celebrities/professionalsup front and made sure that thepeople in the pews knew just how important Ed was. Id hesitate greatly before taking a man to task, especially publicly in a blog, for deciding to choose community over a secondary doctrine. Teachers face a greater judgment. Male headship does not have to be read into the passage you alluded to, 1 Timothy 2:11-15. When Bill said thathe didn't know the guy, Pete said he needed to meet him. the slippery slope argument has no credibility if p. Credibility or no, look at what has actually taken place in TEC and UMC and come up with another name for it. A discussion or debate with Pete Briscoe, some complementarians, and an audience, would be a good starting point. Bill Gates and Microsoft have given us Microsoft Dos 1.0 thru Windows 10. So many years of feeling marginalized and invisible in church, of feeling this is a normal thing I have to accept. And I rarely cry. She put herself through Bible College by doing house work and became a Wycliff Bible Translator. Now I know why the post was offline. After extensive discussion, we took a vote. thank you for responding . Calvary Chapels party line insofar as not trusting ones own internals, is the same as the Neo-Cals. I watched the whole video. those terms . Bent Tree Bible Message from Sunday, 10 January 2016 Title: Part 1: Daniel Intro - January 10, 2016 Series: Behind the Scenes: The Book of Daniel Speaker: Pete Briscoe Notes. Im not even sure Pete would label himself or our church as either egalitarian or complementarian. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. . Never mind when the man at church is a 14-year-old Elder. What transpired at that meeting still brings tears to my eyes. I want to commend Denny Burk for his willingness to take my occasional comments at his blog. The issue is certainly important enough for us to try. When it comes to taking your Bible seriously, since egalitarians have researched the Bible so much that it seems to me that they take it very seriously. Ive loved the teaching of all three of the Briscoes at a Family Camp in Wisconsin. Wow! He stopped and pointed the two of us out. It's M-I-L-G-R-A-M the Milgram experiment, but basically American researchers were trying to figure out after World War II, why so many in German society were willing to go along with the Nazis or go along with their leadership, do incalculably horrible things to people. While he himself felt hurt over the situation, Powell reminded viewers of the webcast that the involved parties are also hurt and that something drove them to that place of impropriety. 1) Caroline McWilliams was planning to marry Michael Keaton and move to NY, and: 2) Didi Conn got bored with the role and left the show. I know many of the folks at Bent Tree and enjoy them as brethren. So let me make a call for more grace on the part of complementarians. Thank you to the elders of Bent Tree Fellowship for their faithfulness in searching the scriptures and changing their minds as the Spirit shed light. Theyve demonstrated that they know how to read the Bible correctly: to look at the context and see what Paul was really talking about. *Sigh* I liked the comeback to this argument Jesus disciples were Jewish, therefore your church leadership must be Jewish. Pete could have kept the whole incident quiet. There are many who join feminist readings of Scripture to a more explicit repudiation of the Bible's integrity and authority. Although I disagree with them, I hope and pray the best for Bent Tree. bc wrote: The pressure to conform in secondary and tertiary matters of doctrine are non-negotiable under a leadership that demands loyalty to its authority. "One of the things I learned a number of years ago is that grace is doing the most loving thing," he said. They accuse egalitarian churches of following the sinful culture, but given that the culture has until recently restricted females and denied us rights, etc., its really the comp churches who follow the sinful, wordly culture. This is all the rage in some reformed youth groups. I am sure this will continue into the future, as he made it clear that his doctrine is shaped by the Bible, and nothing else. I think the elders are mistaken on this one and would do well to reconsider what the Bible teaches. Beautiful The grace of God in action. Now there is a scholar who will rock your world! Anyone who denies the clear words of St. Paul concerning Adam and Eve rejects the authority and inerrancy of Scripture full stop. And I am saying that the issue is the meaning and role of scripture, about which there is huge disagreement. Whatever is going on at this church, I hope it is contagious. (I know, I looked for an egalitarian church- what I was able to find were not acceptable). You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to. J.R.R. In The Bondage of the Will, Luther said to Erasmus (his debate opponent) that Christians should glory in assertions. I am obligated to submit to the cop, but the cops life is not worth more than mine. Form the original post: My husband agreed to pray but he said he did not want an introduction and that he did not want MD placed after his name. Articles online are a poor substitute for personal contact. Yes!!! I had heard that Ethan Phillips was not happy about this. God Bless. Pete is not a celebrity seeking, "I'm friends withso and so," kind of pastor. Bent Tree exists to be used by God as he transforms people into disciples of Jesus Christ, here and around the world. Better yet, I can say that my husband and I felt quite close to Pete. manipulating peoples most deeply held beliefs. He put his arm around her during worship time and then went up to preach. Today certainty has been equated with arrogance. In terms of authority, the priests God will hold more responsible than those they teach. It is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. In keeping with Protestant insanity, pastors who get caught with both hands in the cookie jar must resign after preaching the total depravity of the saints for years while long-term affairs were running in the background. I think this point of view is mistaken. Notes: This church sounds wonderful. You will note that BTBF is premillennial in their statement. By the way, I really appreciated coming to the Driven by Truth worldview conference at Southern Seminary in March! As usual we have a clergy class that are pretty much making them with their factions of followers. Has Jesus Christ given new instructions to His church in the 21st century that supersede those found in Apostle Pauls New Testament letters? So many interesting, well thought out and thought provoking comments and questions on this stream. Their hermeneutic must prevail and it must translate into actual practice. I used to belong to a denomination that started ordaining women almost 100 years ago. Looking elsewhere for historical information may not be a bad idea once people begin talking about culture this and culture that, but the distorting and/or editing of scripture is off bounds in my book. Headless Unicorn Guy wrote: It is similar to what Congress does with bills they want passed. . In cases where the individual in question has come out in a sense of transparency, there are churches where as long as they maintain a narrative of struggling with SSA, theyll be accepted as members, although sometimes not permitted to lead or do anything with children (because old myths die hard). Now note, that we as a nation have done this and wisely so I think in the area of slavery and the area of polygamy so far, in saying that these things while not specifically forbidden by scripture are never the less inconsistent with values taught in scripture and inconsistent with our current culture. Pete Briscoe asked me to lead a Sunday School class on the Reformation. Now if you can find me some passages of scripture that actually teach men to lead rather than the making up of doctrines around the verses that say women submit, then I will revisit my 20 years of study on the equality of men and women in the pulpit and home. If all sides are committed to the authority of scripture, then perhaps we have some common ground upon which to persuade one another. Here's how, Heaven will be diverse. . Grudem concludes his review this way: I believe [Webbs work] is a deeply flawed book that fundamentally contradicts the Reformation principle of sola Scriptura because it nullifies in principle the moral authority of the entire NT and replaces it with the moral authority of a better ethic, an ethic that Webb claims to be able to discover through a complex hermeneutical process entirely foreign to the way God intended the Bible to be read, understood, believed, and obeyed. Speaker: Pete Briscoe Notes. But yeah, the implied connection puzzles me too. Your question sparked something for me that I havent thought about for a long time regarding my thoughts on LGBT in the first place. What I was most impressed with was the interactions of Stuart and Jill with my teenage children. After a lot of research and study I discovered, by accident, Catherine Bushnell. I will listen to it again another day. Re: being worth dividing over. Update: This is what happens when you try to recall events in the past. Jill Briscoe is one of my favorite Bible teachers. Skip to main content Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. : As she rose to speak, a number of young men turned their backs on her, showing their disdain for a women teacher., When I read this, I literally felt sick. That slippery slope can go both ways, so here goes. But the 12 Apostles Were All Male Thats simply not what its for. A priest can. Plus, life honestly goes better if you avoid those pitfalls. Bent Tree now stands on a slippery slope. The elders decided to back the class and asked the couple not to interfere since I was doing this withtheirpermission. It prevents so many types of progress. I have never been a member of a church, SBC or FWB or UMC or TEC that denied membership to homosexuals based on SSA. Before the Internet, that was my excitement when all I had to study was my Bible and my 4 inch thick Strongs Exhaustive Concordance with Lexicon of the King James Version. With all respect, okrapod, turn about is fair play. It is so nice to hear of women being embraced as equal participants and co-workers in the life of the Church. Trajectory theology (which Duncan also mentions) is not something Briscoe heavily relies it. The Scriptures are authoritative and without error in any category of knowledge, including science and history, and are of supreme and final authority in all matters about which they speak. How about non-celibate but married LGBTQ people? 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